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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.goinglocaltravel.com/2009/06/18/in-defence-of-guidebooks/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe guidebooks are good for getting a person started in a new country. Pick out the key points of what you want to visit, and use the guidebook for that. But for the rest of the trip, leave that sucker in your bag, and just breath in the sights and sounds of your foreign environment. You&#039;ll have more fun that way, and the trip won&#039;t be as rigid and structured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe guidebooks are good for getting a person started in a new country. Pick out the key points of what you want to visit, and use the guidebook for that. But for the rest of the trip, leave that sucker in your bag, and just breath in the sights and sounds of your foreign environment. You&#8217;ll have more fun that way, and the trip won&#8217;t be as rigid and structured.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia</title>
		<link>http://www.goinglocaltravel.com/2009/06/18/in-defence-of-guidebooks/comment-page-1/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Vicky. It is quite a task! Sometimes I feel like I&#039;m in terra incognita. You are correct, there is very little information on Paraguay, even within the country itself. I depend heavily on people&#039;s willingness to share information and experiences with me. Fortunately Paraguayans are about the nicest people on the planet! Trying my best to learn Guaraní so I´ll be better prepared for venturing deep into the countryside - less Spanish is spoken the further you go.  Email me at natalia@guidetoparaguay.com and we can figure out what you want to see. Perhaps you&#039;d be up for accompanying me on an information gathering adventure?

I do not have a publisher yet.  I&#039;m hoping to be done with traveling by December and will then have time to concentrate on finding a publisher and ironing out the rest of the details. My goal is to have the book available for purchase by next year.

Nos hablamos pronto!
Natalia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vicky. It is quite a task! Sometimes I feel like I&#8217;m in terra incognita. You are correct, there is very little information on Paraguay, even within the country itself. I depend heavily on people&#8217;s willingness to share information and experiences with me. Fortunately Paraguayans are about the nicest people on the planet! Trying my best to learn Guaraní so I´ll be better prepared for venturing deep into the countryside &#8211; less Spanish is spoken the further you go.  Email me at <a href="mailto:natalia@guidetoparaguay.com">natalia@guidetoparaguay.com</a> and we can figure out what you want to see. Perhaps you&#8217;d be up for accompanying me on an information gathering adventure?</p>
<p>I do not have a publisher yet.  I&#8217;m hoping to be done with traveling by December and will then have time to concentrate on finding a publisher and ironing out the rest of the details. My goal is to have the book available for purchase by next year.</p>
<p>Nos hablamos pronto!<br />
Natalia</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.goinglocaltravel.com/2009/06/18/in-defence-of-guidebooks/comment-page-1/#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicky Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Natalia. Definitely got yourself an challenging (and fascinating) task there! I discovered your blog the other day actually and tweeted it. I was quite excited to find it as there&#039;s little info out there on Paraguay. Looking fwd to reading your book already. When will it be out? Is it a publisher I&#039;d know? I would love to speak to you about the country sometime. I&#039;m heading over there in the next month or two. It&#039;s the only country in S America I don&#039;t know and I&#039;m really looking forward to seeing what it has to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Natalia. Definitely got yourself an challenging (and fascinating) task there! I discovered your blog the other day actually and tweeted it. I was quite excited to find it as there&#8217;s little info out there on Paraguay. Looking fwd to reading your book already. When will it be out? Is it a publisher I&#8217;d know? I would love to speak to you about the country sometime. I&#8217;m heading over there in the next month or two. It&#8217;s the only country in S America I don&#8217;t know and I&#8217;m really looking forward to seeing what it has to offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia</title>
		<link>http://www.goinglocaltravel.com/2009/06/18/in-defence-of-guidebooks/comment-page-1/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article. I´m currently writing a guide book for Paraguay and have struggled with similar questions about guidebooks.  How much information does a guidebook user need -  where is the line between not enough and being so detailed you´re doomed to be out of date before going to print? I spoke with a guidebook writer recently who just finished an assignment and said it would be at least eight months before it went to press. A lot can change in eight months!

As is obvious by the responses to your post so far there is a wide spectrum of guidebook useage - some people use them as a starting point and others almost as an instruction manual.  Paraguay is a country with a lot of potential, very little tourism infrastructure and, either a bad or non-existent reputation, depending on who you talk to. I wonder who I have to write for and who other guidebooks write for.  An experience traveler? A backpacker? A business man? Someone with no experience in Latin America? Sometimes the experience of writing a guidebook can be even more interesting than the subject of the book!

Regarding print vs. virtual guidebooks I have heard people say they would never use a guide in e-book forms and others say &quot;I can´t wait till I can carry all my guidebooks on my iphone!&quot; Each has it´s pros and cons. Books are heavy. A virtual guidebook can be updated more easily but I would imagine that whipping out your iphone might be an issue if you are touring an underdeveloped area of the world. In terms of the process of writing a guidebook I decided to stick with old school tools - pen and paper - instead of a digital recorder for conversations.  Paraguay is very poor and pulling out a fancy device can break the level of intimacy during an interview or friendly conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article. I´m currently writing a guide book for Paraguay and have struggled with similar questions about guidebooks.  How much information does a guidebook user need &#8211;  where is the line between not enough and being so detailed you´re doomed to be out of date before going to print? I spoke with a guidebook writer recently who just finished an assignment and said it would be at least eight months before it went to press. A lot can change in eight months!</p>
<p>As is obvious by the responses to your post so far there is a wide spectrum of guidebook useage &#8211; some people use them as a starting point and others almost as an instruction manual.  Paraguay is a country with a lot of potential, very little tourism infrastructure and, either a bad or non-existent reputation, depending on who you talk to. I wonder who I have to write for and who other guidebooks write for.  An experience traveler? A backpacker? A business man? Someone with no experience in Latin America? Sometimes the experience of writing a guidebook can be even more interesting than the subject of the book!</p>
<p>Regarding print vs. virtual guidebooks I have heard people say they would never use a guide in e-book forms and others say &#8220;I can´t wait till I can carry all my guidebooks on my iphone!&#8221; Each has it´s pros and cons. Books are heavy. A virtual guidebook can be updated more easily but I would imagine that whipping out your iphone might be an issue if you are touring an underdeveloped area of the world. In terms of the process of writing a guidebook I decided to stick with old school tools &#8211; pen and paper &#8211; instead of a digital recorder for conversations.  Paraguay is very poor and pulling out a fancy device can break the level of intimacy during an interview or friendly conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicky Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great story, Tom. That&#039;s the sort of attitude I like - you know the way you like to travel but that doesn&#039;t make you judgment of the choices of others. An amazing journey too! Good luck.</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.goinglocaltravel.com/2009/06/18/in-defence-of-guidebooks/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Vicky for this thought-provoking article. I think that the decision to use or not use a guidebook comes down to two things: time, and travel philosophy.

For someone with a one-month Interrail ticket for Europe, who wants to see as many of the continent&#039;s sights as possible before returning home, and who wants to do it on the cheap and meet other travellers in the process, a guidebook is pretty indispensable. This kind of travel is for fun, visiting specific locations for specific reasons.

This is no more or less worthy than its antithesis, which I should say is what I&#039;m doing at the moment. I&#039;ve sacrificed stability and (on some levels) social acceptability for the freedom of unrestricted travel. I do it by travelling on a bicycle and camping out every night. In two years I&#039;ve never carried a guidebook, and I long ago gave up on carrying maps.

Why? Well, it just fits. Since travel is my way of life, rather than being a time-out from my &#039;real&#039; life, things are going to be different. I relish the tingle of crossing a border and arriving in a new country with my mind a completely blank slate. It sounds ironic, but not having a map has increased my ability to navigate, and not having a guidebook has taught me how to find what I need. Above all, it means that my experience is untarnished by any preconceptions.

If I couldn&#039;t develop like this, I doubt I&#039;d have the motivation to keep doing it. A guidebook and map would take away the lure of the unknown and the lessons of the getting-to-know.

When I meet short-term travellers, they usually arrive already knowing where they want to go and what they want to do. The locals know this as well, and they take full advantage of it. Every hotel owner knows when he&#039;s listed in Lonely Planet. I guess this is more of an issue when we&#039;re talking about somewhere less-visited, like Sudan or Yemen or Armenia. It serves both parties well in this situation.

Incidentally, the other reason I don&#039;t use guidebooks is because there it is only rarely that I find myself somewhere that it would be useful. I don&#039;t stay in hotels or take much interest in sightseeing, so a guidebook which fills me in on the details of two towns 50km apart but doesn&#039;t mention anything about the villages or the road between them - which is where I&#039;m going to be for 99% of my time - is of limited use.

All of that said, it&#039;s just been my personal preference, and one I continually question but have ended up sticking to for the reasons above. Next year I&#039;m planning to spend all spring and summer exploring Central Asia by bike with my wife, and since we&#039;re going to take it more slowly, take more time out for exploring and visiting places in more detail, and occasionally stay in the odd hotel, I expect a guidebook will come in handy. I&#039;m not a guidebook-resister - they are indispensably useful to many travellers - but they&#039;re not for everyone.

I think the danger comes when they are relied on too heavily (your ATM story maybe!). Change happens. Some trips can become little more than the ticking-off of to-do lists. I think (hope) this is a minority. I encourage people to take risks and to test themselves against the unknown - in moderation at first - because there are some really valuable lessons to be learnt by simply not knowing where you&#039;re going - especially alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Vicky for this thought-provoking article. I think that the decision to use or not use a guidebook comes down to two things: time, and travel philosophy.</p>
<p>For someone with a one-month Interrail ticket for Europe, who wants to see as many of the continent&#8217;s sights as possible before returning home, and who wants to do it on the cheap and meet other travellers in the process, a guidebook is pretty indispensable. This kind of travel is for fun, visiting specific locations for specific reasons.</p>
<p>This is no more or less worthy than its antithesis, which I should say is what I&#8217;m doing at the moment. I&#8217;ve sacrificed stability and (on some levels) social acceptability for the freedom of unrestricted travel. I do it by travelling on a bicycle and camping out every night. In two years I&#8217;ve never carried a guidebook, and I long ago gave up on carrying maps.</p>
<p>Why? Well, it just fits. Since travel is my way of life, rather than being a time-out from my &#8216;real&#8217; life, things are going to be different. I relish the tingle of crossing a border and arriving in a new country with my mind a completely blank slate. It sounds ironic, but not having a map has increased my ability to navigate, and not having a guidebook has taught me how to find what I need. Above all, it means that my experience is untarnished by any preconceptions.</p>
<p>If I couldn&#8217;t develop like this, I doubt I&#8217;d have the motivation to keep doing it. A guidebook and map would take away the lure of the unknown and the lessons of the getting-to-know.</p>
<p>When I meet short-term travellers, they usually arrive already knowing where they want to go and what they want to do. The locals know this as well, and they take full advantage of it. Every hotel owner knows when he&#8217;s listed in Lonely Planet. I guess this is more of an issue when we&#8217;re talking about somewhere less-visited, like Sudan or Yemen or Armenia. It serves both parties well in this situation.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the other reason I don&#8217;t use guidebooks is because there it is only rarely that I find myself somewhere that it would be useful. I don&#8217;t stay in hotels or take much interest in sightseeing, so a guidebook which fills me in on the details of two towns 50km apart but doesn&#8217;t mention anything about the villages or the road between them &#8211; which is where I&#8217;m going to be for 99% of my time &#8211; is of limited use.</p>
<p>All of that said, it&#8217;s just been my personal preference, and one I continually question but have ended up sticking to for the reasons above. Next year I&#8217;m planning to spend all spring and summer exploring Central Asia by bike with my wife, and since we&#8217;re going to take it more slowly, take more time out for exploring and visiting places in more detail, and occasionally stay in the odd hotel, I expect a guidebook will come in handy. I&#8217;m not a guidebook-resister &#8211; they are indispensably useful to many travellers &#8211; but they&#8217;re not for everyone.</p>
<p>I think the danger comes when they are relied on too heavily (your ATM story maybe!). Change happens. Some trips can become little more than the ticking-off of to-do lists. I think (hope) this is a minority. I encourage people to take risks and to test themselves against the unknown &#8211; in moderation at first &#8211; because there are some really valuable lessons to be learnt by simply not knowing where you&#8217;re going &#8211; especially alone.</p>
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		<title>By: David Whitley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Whitley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree: guidebooks do get a bit of an unfair rap. For all the information you can get on the internet, it&#039;s bloody useless when you&#039;ve not got a wireless connection, phone signal or your battery needs recharging.

But it&#039;s not just that reason that I always carry one - it&#039;s great to get a relatively concise overview of an area in one relatively easy to carry book.

It&#039;s great for planning a rough itinerary (which you can change if something better comes along) and getting an idea or two of places you might enjoy drinking or eating in. You don&#039;t have to follow it to the letter, or at all if you don&#039;t want to. I consider them as being a bit like Wikipedia - an excellent first reference point that should never be taken as gospel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree: guidebooks do get a bit of an unfair rap. For all the information you can get on the internet, it&#8217;s bloody useless when you&#8217;ve not got a wireless connection, phone signal or your battery needs recharging.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not just that reason that I always carry one &#8211; it&#8217;s great to get a relatively concise overview of an area in one relatively easy to carry book.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great for planning a rough itinerary (which you can change if something better comes along) and getting an idea or two of places you might enjoy drinking or eating in. You don&#8217;t have to follow it to the letter, or at all if you don&#8217;t want to. I consider them as being a bit like Wikipedia &#8211; an excellent first reference point that should never be taken as gospel.</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>http://www.goinglocaltravel.com/2009/06/18/in-defence-of-guidebooks/comment-page-1/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that guidbooks are just like all other books- it depends on the author behind them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that guidbooks are just like all other books- it depends on the author behind them!</p>
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		<title>By: Mosh</title>
		<link>http://www.goinglocaltravel.com/2009/06/18/in-defence-of-guidebooks/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Mosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the &quot;with guidebooks&quot; pile, and I&#039;ll even stick my oar out as far as to say I only buy Lonely Planets. Are they more accurate? No. I just like the layout, but that may be because I&#039;m used to them.

The internet&#039;s great, but as someone else pointed out it&#039;s so much fun just sitting with a proper book and flicking through it, marking things in pen, folding the corners over (I *never* do this with other books) and making the damn thing look *used*.

Sure, they&#039;re out of date at times. I tend to use mine more for &quot;what to see and do&quot; than &quot;where to eat and sleep&quot;. Travel advice in some countries rarely changes, but in others it&#039;s a very fluid beast - you have to take train schedules, bus times and the like with a pinch of salt.

It&#039;s a *guide* book after all - it guides you in the right direction. It doesn&#039;t necessarily get you there in one piece and do your laundry for you on the second day. If you want that kind of treatment, go on a package tour.

They&#039;re also a great souvenir. A friend of mine has a Lonely Planet from almost every country he&#039;s been to. He&#039;ll buy them locally, if possible, use the hell out of them and then post them home once they&#039;re taking up too much space. I&#039;ve started doing that, but I still only have about a dozen of them.

I&#039;m slightly biased, though. Besides being an internet addict I&#039;m a huge lover of books and I don&#039;t believe you can beat the &quot;feel&quot; of sitting and flipping through a proper paper tome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the &#8220;with guidebooks&#8221; pile, and I&#8217;ll even stick my oar out as far as to say I only buy Lonely Planets. Are they more accurate? No. I just like the layout, but that may be because I&#8217;m used to them.</p>
<p>The internet&#8217;s great, but as someone else pointed out it&#8217;s so much fun just sitting with a proper book and flicking through it, marking things in pen, folding the corners over (I *never* do this with other books) and making the damn thing look *used*.</p>
<p>Sure, they&#8217;re out of date at times. I tend to use mine more for &#8220;what to see and do&#8221; than &#8220;where to eat and sleep&#8221;. Travel advice in some countries rarely changes, but in others it&#8217;s a very fluid beast &#8211; you have to take train schedules, bus times and the like with a pinch of salt.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a *guide* book after all &#8211; it guides you in the right direction. It doesn&#8217;t necessarily get you there in one piece and do your laundry for you on the second day. If you want that kind of treatment, go on a package tour.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re also a great souvenir. A friend of mine has a Lonely Planet from almost every country he&#8217;s been to. He&#8217;ll buy them locally, if possible, use the hell out of them and then post them home once they&#8217;re taking up too much space. I&#8217;ve started doing that, but I still only have about a dozen of them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m slightly biased, though. Besides being an internet addict I&#8217;m a huge lover of books and I don&#8217;t believe you can beat the &#8220;feel&#8221; of sitting and flipping through a proper paper tome.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I typically travel with a guide book with the traditionals such as Rough Guides, Moon (sometimes) and some LPs being my favourites. Saying that, I don&#039;t use them for accom, food or prices at all but find their maps, checks for services (laundromats, info centres etc) useful, things to see (as a check to see if anything sounds special that I can go and check out) and history/culture (useful after seeing something during a day to get more explanation as to why). The internet adds to that info but most of the time, the info is dubious at best unless from a trusted source. Wandering a town and generally experiencing a place if you have some time goes a long way and you don&#039;t need a guide book for that. After all, they are called guide books for a reason - they are there as a GUIDE, not a bible. Interesting article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I typically travel with a guide book with the traditionals such as Rough Guides, Moon (sometimes) and some LPs being my favourites. Saying that, I don&#8217;t use them for accom, food or prices at all but find their maps, checks for services (laundromats, info centres etc) useful, things to see (as a check to see if anything sounds special that I can go and check out) and history/culture (useful after seeing something during a day to get more explanation as to why). The internet adds to that info but most of the time, the info is dubious at best unless from a trusted source. Wandering a town and generally experiencing a place if you have some time goes a long way and you don&#8217;t need a guide book for that. After all, they are called guide books for a reason &#8211; they are there as a GUIDE, not a bible. Interesting article.</p>
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